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Space Digest                Sat, 24 Oct 92       Volume 15 : Issue 340

Today's Topics:
                                <None>
               ==> Gore: Bush Fails Aerospace Industry
             current active planetary (and lunar) probes
                          Dan Quayle on Mars
                           DC-Y on propane
                             DCX Status?
         Did it open yet? (was Re: Galileo Update - 10/23/92)
                             Dyson sphere
                   fun with slush hydrogen (2 msgs)
                  Galileo Update - 10/23/92 (2 msgs)
                           planetary motion
      pocket satellite receivers (was Re: how much is the 95LX)
                             Quayle Quote
                      Scary subject line glitch
                              Shrinking?
             Two-Line Orbital Element Set:  Space Shuttle
                      Ulysses Update - 10/23/92

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 03:12:00 GMT
From: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <[e-mail]>
Subject: <None>
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Peter Yee) writes:
> NASA TO HOLD TOWN MEETINGS ACROSS AMERICA
>
>     Town meetings are scheduled from 2 - 6:30 p.m.
> local time in the following cities:
>
> Nov.  9  Raleigh, N.C.  North Carolina State University, Jane S. McKimmon Center
> Nov. 17     Hartford, Conn.  University of Hartford, Lincoln Theater
> Nov. 20  Indianapolis, Ind.  Indiana University-Purdue University
>                    University Place Conference Center
> Dec.  3  Pasadena, Calif.  California Institute of Technology, Ramo Auditorium
> Dec. 11  Tampa, Fla.    University of South Florida, Theatre 1
> Dec. 15  Seattle, Wash. University of Washington, Student Union Building
>                    Auditorium
> Jan 1993               Denver, Colo.   TBD
>     For more information, the public should phone [phone].

Is anybody from Indianapolis reading this? Especially anybody from
IUPUI?  I would like to attend, perhaps organize an expedition, and I
could use advice from a Native Guide.  Please respond by e-mail.

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Date: 24 Oct 92 03:19:07 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: ==> Gore: Bush Fails Aerospace Industry
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space,sci.space

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 FOR RELEASE UPON DELIVERY
 Clinton/Gore Email
 9 A-M (EDT) FRIDAY
 October 23, 1992



           In second major speech on space, aerospace policy:

          GORE SAYS BUSH FAILS AEROSPACE INDUSTRY AND WORKERS
     OUTLINES PLAN FOR ACTION TO STRENGTHEN INDUSTRY, PRESERVE JOBS

      MELBOURNE, FL - The U.S. aerospace industry and American jobs
 are threatened by the failed policies of the Bush-Quayle
 Administration, said Sen. Al Gore, D-TN, offering a new approach to
 strengthen the industry and America's civil space program in a speech
 at the Florida Institute of Technology near Cape Canaveral and at the
 U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama.

      "The time when we could assume continued American supremacy in
 aerospace is gone.  And President Bush's hands-off economic policies
 have dangerously weakened the ability of American aerospace to fight
 back," said Gore, chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee's
 Subcommittee on Science, Technology and Space, which has jurisdiction
 over NASA.

      "During his Administration, President Bush has had the
 opportunity to take steps needed to reinvigorate our aerospace
 industry.  He never recognized that opportunity and never responded,"
 said Gore, in the second of two major policy speeches focusing on the
 civil space program and the aerospace industry.

      "He has failed to provide U.S. aircraft manufacturers with a
 level playing field on the international market.  He has failed to
 invest in new technologies needed to maintain the competitiveness of
 U.S.-built aircraft.  And, President Bush has failed to create an
 economic climate in which American business, including our domestic
 airline industry, can compete and prosper," said Gore.

      Gore outlined specific action that would be taken by a
 Clinton-Gore Administration to strengthen America's aerospace
 industry and the civilian space program and to increase investment in
 advanced aeronautics technologies:

 *    Investing in NASA's aeronautical research and technology
      policies;

 *    Increased emphasis on the development of new subsonic aircraft
      technologies;

 *    A new approach to developing advanced technology by renewing the
      civilian technology base.

            -- creating 170 market-driven manufacturing centers to
            help American manufacturers attain global economic
            leadership,

            -- reinvesting every dollar cut from defense research and
            development into federal civilian R&D and generic
            technology programs,

            -- helping communities hit hard by defense cuts by
            creating at least 25 Manufacturing Extension Centers --
            Regional Alliances -- that will employ the expertise of
            our defense industry and scientists in civilian technology
            and manufacturing programs.

 *    Creating a defense conversion plan to help companies make the
      transition from military contractor to commercial contractor;

 *    Supporting the state-of-the-art aeronautical testing facilities,
      including  subsonic, advanced supersonic, and hypersonic wind
      tunnels.

       "Under the Bush-Quayle Administration policies, U.S. aircraft
 manufacturers are losing market share.  Testimony before Congress
 earlier this year put the U.S. share of the large civil transport
 aircraft market at 70 percent, down from 90 percent in 1980.
 Industry experts have said that without action to strengthen NASA's
 aeronautical research program, the U.S. market share could fall
 another 10 points," said Gore.

       "America cannot continue to rely on trickle-down technology
 from the military to maintain the competitiveness of our high-tech
 and manufacturing industries.  Civilian industry, not the military,
 is the driving force behind technology today," said Gore.

       Gore also reprised from earlier this week his criticism of the
 Bush-Quayle Administration's space policy, saying that "because of
 the failed policies of the last four years, our national space
 program is as lost as a satellite thrown out of orbit" and that
 "George Bush and Dan Quayle have perilously weakened our space
 program."

       "By failing to set priorities within NASA, by failing to make
 investments that strengthen the space program and create new jobs,
 the Bush-Quayle Administration has weakened every component of that
 program," said Gore

       Gore said that he and Governor Bill Clinton would make the
 space program more cost-effective and flexible, "spending more wisely
 in line with established priorities [that] will enable us to preserve
 jobs and ensure that the United States remains a leader in space."
 Space science should be a priority for NASA, Gore said.

       Gore also reinforced the Clinton-Gore support to move forward
 to complete the Space Station Freedom, the Advanced Solid Rocket
 Motor program, and to upgrade our existing fleet of expandable launch
 vehicles and invest in the future of America's commercial launch
 industry.

       The Florida Institute of Technology is the first school in the
 country to offer a degree in space technology.  Many of its graduates
 go on to work at NASA, Grumman, Lockheed, and Martin Marietta.  The
 school is located about 25 miles south of Cape Canaveral.  Gore
 echoed his remarks in Florida during a visit later in the day to the
 U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama.

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1992 22:51:22 GMT
From: Nick Haines <[e-mail]>
Subject: current active planetary (and lunar) probes
Newsgroups: sci.space

Can someone post a list of currently active probes. I keep seeing
these misson status reports here, but can never remember what a given
mission is supposed to do, when it was launched, what instruments it
carries, etc. What I want is a list of any probes from which we still
receive signals, giving this information:

(1) launch date (just the year will do)
(2) destination, ETA, current location, swingbys to be performed &c
(3) currently active experiments
(4) problems

I know some of this stuff (e.g. Galileo is the probe en route to
Jupiter with an orbiter and a parachute, Mars Observer is en route to
Mars) but can't for the life of me remember what Ulysses is for....

Nick Haines [e-mail]

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Date: 23 Oct 92 20:08:20 GMT
From: Craig Keithley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Dan Quayle on Mars
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Ken Laws) wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]> Craig Lake,
> [e-mail] writes:
> >    Does anyone know the famous Dan Quayle life on Mars quote from a
> >couple of years ago, or at least where I could look this up?
> >                    Thanks
> >                    Craig Lake
>
> Mars is essentially in the same orbit... Mars is somewhat the same
> distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures
> where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water,
> that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe.
>         -- Vice President Dan Quayle, 8/11/89
>                    (reported in Esquire, 8/92)
>

I recall watching the 'Face the Nation' (or some equivalent) show where
Quayle made this statement.  I remember thinking, "Oh, ok, he's speaking in
a terse techspeak manner".  More importantly, it was a discussion group
talking about the space program.  As I recall, the "experts" present didn't
disagree, and I believe they nodded in agreement.  Considering that this
was around the same time that some pictures of Mars made the news showing
channals that could have been cut by flowing water, and more importantly,
it was felt that ice might exist in the polar regions, it didn't strike me
that Quayle was completely off base.  This is only if he had been using
techspeak, and then he could have been saying that it looked like there was
once water on Mars, so there still might be some water left there, and that
we could get oxygen from water.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a defense of Quayle, who has demonstrated
multiple times that he is unable to communicate.  And obviously in this
instance he didn't find a better way of saying "hey, it looks like we might
be able to get oxygen on Mars".  Its just that in the one particular case,
I think that comment should be taken in context.  So it would be
interesting to get a copy of the show, or lacking that, a transcript.


Craig Keithley
Apple Computer, Inc.
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 02:23:24 GMT
From: Henry Spencer <[e-mail]>
Subject: DC-Y on propane
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bruce Dunn) writes:
>and the tanks, although they won't be any larger, must be designed to hold 3
>times the mass of propellant under acceleration...

This may not be that big a deal; according to Max Hunter, the internal
pressure loads tend to dominate tank design anyway.  What might be a bit
more problematic would be the structure supporting the tanks.
--
MS-DOS is the OS/360 of the 1980s.      | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
              -Hal W. Hardenbergh (1985)|  [e-mail]  utzoo!henry

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1992 22:50:27 GMT
From: Saccio Vanzetti <[e-mail]>
Subject: DCX Status?
Newsgroups: sci.space

[e-mail] (Henry Spencer) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill Goffe) writes:
>>>hydrogen has two serious problems.  First, it is extremely bulky...
>>How about using slush hydrogen, as developed from the NASP? While from
>>my reading it doesn't appear ready for use yet, it would seem to offer
>>benefits down the road (perhaps for the DC-1?).

>Slush hydrogen helps hydrogen's density problems some, at the cost of
>adding a large assortment of technical hassles (for example, it's not at
>all simple to build a fuel gauge for a slush-hydrogen tank, because the
>depth does not tell the whole story).  I'm not really convinced that it

Fuel gauge? You know how much you started with... You know how much you
have burned... There's gotta be some equation that will let you calculate
the amount you have left...   :-)

[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 00:05:02 GMT
From: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Did it open yet? (was Re: Galileo Update - 10/23/92)
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Paul Weaver) writes:
> Did the high-gain antenna problem ever get fixed, and if not, what are the
> current plans?

As newscaster Chevy Chase used to say:

"This just in from Madrid.  According to doctors attending  Generalissimo
Francisco Franco,  the former head of state remains seriously dead."

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 02:20:25 GMT
From: Henry Spencer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Dyson sphere
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Charles Frank Radley) writes:
>Does a Dyson sphere spin or rotate?

Depends on the level of technology used to build it.  Dyson's original
concept -- a cloud of smaller habitats individually in orbit -- obviously
did.  The problem with a solid sphere is, what *holds it up*?  Even if
you spin it, that only supports the equator -- what keeps the poles from
falling inward?

>For a nonspinning sphere, does it have an atmosphere on the outside(for lifeforms to breathe?

Almost certainly not -- it hasn't enough gravity to hold one.

>Heavy objects on the inside of the sphere will fall into the Sun,
>so inhabitants must live on the outside, in near total darkness.

Sunward gravity is pretty tiny either inside or outside; the most trivial
anchoring will suffice.  A more serious issue is that inhabited areas need
to be enclosed to hold atmosphere.

Providing adequate lighting for the outside, in any case, is just a matter
of some windows and mirrors.
--
MS-DOS is the OS/360 of the 1980s.      | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
              -Hal W. Hardenbergh (1985)|  [e-mail]  utzoo!henry

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 02:35:22 GMT
From: Henry Spencer <[e-mail]>
Subject: fun with slush hydrogen
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Saccio Vanzetti) writes:
>>... a large assortment of technical hassles (for example, it's not at
>>all simple to build a fuel gauge for a slush-hydrogen tank, because the
>>depth does not tell the whole story)...
>
>Fuel gauge? You know how much you started with... You know how much you
>have burned... There's gotta be some equation that will let you calculate
>the amount you have left...   :-)

Ah, if only it were that simple.  Fact is, you *don't* know how much you
started with, not precisely, and you *don't* know how much you have burned.

With something nice and simple like kerosene, you can actually figure out
fairly accurately how much you poured into the tank, and that's it.  Alas,
with cryogenics, some will boil off before launch... how much?

As for how much you've burned, you know approximately how rapidly the engines
will eat the stuff, but your information isn't all that precise, and the
exact rate of consumption may change with things like bearing wear in the
pumps.  High-quality flow measurement is difficult at those flow rates.

And both measurements of how much you poured in, and measurements of how
much has been burned, typically measure *volume*.  With slush hydrogen,
that's not good enough.  You need to know the solids fraction too.

Actually, even without slush complicating things, gauging cryogenics can
be fun...  For example, the tanks will typically be under pressure, and
that will affect the boiling point, and that will affect the temperature
of the stuff in the tank (since it's probably essentially at boiling
point), and *that* will affect its density.

In fact, most any large liquid-fuel rocket has gauges in its tanks and an
on-board control system that fiddles with flow rate to make things come
out right -- in particular, to make sure that fuel and oxidizer are
depleted at the exact same instant, based on actual measurements of how
quickly the tanks are emptying.
--
MS-DOS is the OS/360 of the 1980s.      | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
              -Hal W. Hardenbergh (1985)|  [e-mail]  utzoo!henry

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 03:15:48 GMT
From: Frank Crary <[e-mail]>
Subject: fun with slush hydrogen
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Henry Spencer) writes:
>>Fuel gauge? You know how much you started with... You know how much you
>>have burned... There's gotta be some equation that will let you calculate
>>the amount you have left...   :-)

>Ah, if only it were that simple...

Or, of course, you could be mildly suicidal, and not _care_ how much
fuel you have beyond a rough approximation. It's called barnstorming...
(of course, costs would have to go down _alot_ to allow this attitude...)

                                           Frank Crary
                                           CU Boulder

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 18:27:28 GMT
From: Paul Weaver <[e-mail]>
Subject: Galileo Update - 10/23/92
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary

Did the high-gain antenna problem ever get fixed, and if not, what are the
current plans?
--

===============================================================================
Paul J. Weaver                 | "It is well that war is so terrible, or men
[e-mail]  |  should grow too fond of it"
-------------------------------|       General R. E. Lee
I speak only for myself        |       Battle of Fredricksburg, VA  Dec. 1862

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 02:24:32 GMT
From: Henry Spencer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Galileo Update - 10/23/92
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Did the high-gain antenna problem ever get fixed, and if not, what are the
>current plans?

My, this gets asked a lot... every few days...

No.  They're still trying things, and working hard on a backup plan that
assumes the HGA is dead.
--
MS-DOS is the OS/360 of the 1980s.      | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
              -Hal W. Hardenbergh (1985)|  [e-mail]  utzoo!henry

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 00:50:41 GMT
From: James Davis Nicoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: planetary motion
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jordin Kare) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>hi i'm an aerosapce engineer at Penn State (not a good field to be in now) and
>>in my senior year design class we are sending a pair of probes to the Phobos
>>and Deimos ...
>
>Obviously a message from the distant future.  Or perhaps an alternate
>timeline....

    I've always wondered what would have happened if the Mob
had missed in '63, and hit JFK instead of Connoly (sp). Johnson
was much more on the ball wrt space than JFK, so the Bread&Circuses
of Apollo would no doubt have been replaced by something like Dynasoar
and we'd have a space station by now. No Mob domination of Texas oil, so
no world-wide consolidation of oil-producing nations, since the Arabs
probably wouldn't have cooperated without 'encouragement'. Imagine the
70s without OPEC!

    Johnson would have pulled out of Viet Nam. It wasn't like the
escalations were *his* idea...

                            James Nicoll

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Date: 23 Oct 1992 22:04:32 GMT
From: Anthony J Stieber <[e-mail]>
Subject: pocket satellite receivers (was Re: how much is the 95LX)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48,comp.sys.palmtops,sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:
>In a previous article, [e-mail] (Flavio Casetta) says:
>>If you refer to the spreadsheet, now you can find one also on the HP48.

>is there any sort of satellite downlink like they now have for the
>95 that is available for the 48????
>Imagine being able to forward your email when you're out
>of town to some service like SKYTEL or SKYLINK and then be able
>to read you email on your hp48sx!!!!!
>possible?????

Sure, just plug it in.  The Motorola NewStream receiver which Skylink
sells as the SkyStream receiver is basicly an alphanumeric pager with a
serial port instead of a display.  I see no reason why it can't be
plugged into a 48 or in fact any other device with a serial port.  You
won't even need the HP MDL cradle which is an extra $120 or so.  The
only issue is software :-).  I don't know of anyone using the NewStream
on anything but an HP, but Motorola implied that there were other
machines using it.  The Ericsson Mobidem would probably work with the
48 as well.  The Mobidem is a bidirectional radio frequency packet
modem so email can be sent as well as received, while the NewStream is
strictly receive only.

By the way, the NewStream is no more a satellite receiver than your TV
set is (assuming you don't have TVRO).  It just happens that they use
satellites to move the data from one area to another, just like the TV
networks, the Internet and long distance phone companies.

Now a Global Positioning System receiver *does* receive signals from
relatively low earth orbit satellites (lower than geosynch anyway).
There is a GPS receiver for the 95, it probably also uses the serial
port and would work with other serial devices.

Motorola has talked about some sort of future low earth orbit satellite
system for two way radio communications, but I don't know much about it.

Perhaps someone on sci.space knows more about it.
--
<-:(= Anthony Stieber    [e-mail]   uwm!uwmcsd4!anthony

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1992 20:11:06 GMT
From: Richard Murphy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quayle Quote
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeff Bytof) writes:
>
>>Mars is essentially in the same orbit... somewhat the same distance from the
>>Sun, which is very important.
>
>In terms of cosmic distances, Earth and Mars are close together, with
>Mars just slightly outside the Sun's ecosphere.  Most of the materials
>that are solids and gasses on Earth are solids and gasses on Mars...
>
>>We have seen pictures where there are canals,
>>we believe, and water.
>
>There is a huge canyon, Valles Marineris, and many channels that
>appear to be carved by once running water.  Water may exist as permafrost
>under the surface of Mars at temperate latitudes.
>
>>If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If
>>oxygen, that means we can breathe.
>
>Using electrolysis, water can be broken down into hydrogen and breathable
>oxygen.
>
>>                -- Vice President Dan Quayle
>
>The man's no dummy!  He's just trying not to bore people.
>
Funny, my son, who's in 7th grade, thought this info from Dan was a sign
of scientific ignorance...he claims that anyone who watches 3 or 4 hours
of PBS or the Discovery channel will learn more about Mars than you want to
know!

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 01:04:12 GMT
From: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Scary subject line glitch
Newsgroups: sci.space

While I was reading sci.space today, my newsreader glitched in listing
article subjects and I was presented with

    Re: Dan Quayle on Dyson Sphere if you

which leads to some strange images.  I wonder if they have canals
there, or water, or oxygen.  Maybe we could just leave his pattern
stored inside the transporter...

During the first and second stage         Bill Higgins
flights of the vehicle, if a serious      Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
irretrievable fault should occur and      [e-mail]
the deviation of the flight attitude of   [e-mail]
the vehicle exceeds a predetermined       SPAN/Hepnet: 43011::HIGGINS
value, the attitude self-destruction
system will make the vehicle
self-destroyed.
     --Long March 3 User's Manual
     Ministry of Astronautics, People's Republic of China (1985)

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 21:52:30 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Phil G. Fraering)
Subject: Shrinking?

\While this is true, I think the fact that the Space program has been placed in
/the same budget slice as several government social programs has (unfairly)
\made it the target of the liberal propaganda machine. As long as NASA and the
/social programs are competing for the same shrinking dollar, you can expect
\the jingoism and dogmatic criticism to continue.

Excuse me, but *shrinking* dollar?

Have you seen the federal budget lately?

/There are two ways we could fight this trend:

\  1. Lobby to have NASA moved to the Military 'slice' of the budget. (They
/     already have much in common.)

That's the *only* part of the budget that's been shrinking...

\  2. Reply with our own dogmatic propaganda.

/Anybody for a "Two Percent for Space" campaign?

As long as the one percent they get today is wasted, what would
be the point?

--
\ Bob Hall
/ Boeing Computer Services
\ [e-mail]

I wanna account like that!

--
Phil Fraering [e-mail] where the x is a number from 1-5.
Phone: [phone] SnailMail: 2408 Blue Haven Dr., New Iberia, La. 70560
---------------------
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message's capability to protect from severe injury, death, widespread
disaster, astronomically significant volumes of space approaching a
state of markedly increaced entropy, or taxes.

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Date: 23 Oct 92 22:24:40 GMT
From: TS Kelso <[e-mail]>
Subject: Two-Line Orbital Element Set:  Space Shuttle
Newsgroups: sci.space

The most current orbital elements from the NORAD two-line element sets are
carried on the Celestial BBS, [phone], and are updated daily (when
possible).  Documentation and tracking software are also available on this
system.  As a service to the satellite user community, the most current
elements for the current shuttle mission are provided below.  The Celestial
BBS may be accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, 2400, 4800, or 9600 bps using
8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity.

Element sets (also updated daily), shuttle elements, and some documentation
and software are also available via anonymous ftp from archive.afit.af.mil
(129.92.1.66) in the directory pub/space.

STS 52
1 22194U 92 70  A 92297.00668981  .00081155  00000-0  25599-3 0    32
2 22194  28.4620 118.5056 0001713 183.9257 118.7827 15.89809643    46
--
Dr TS Kelso                           Assistant Professor of Space Operations
[e-mail]                    Air Force Institute of Technology

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 04:44:08 GMT
From: Ron Baalke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ulysses Update - 10/23/92
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary

Forwarded from:
PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE
JET PROPULSION LABORATORY
CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION
PASADENA, CALIF. 91109. TELEPHONE [phone]

                     ULYSSES MISSION STATUS
                        October 23, 1992

     All spacecraft and science operations are performing well.
Routine Earth-pointing maneuvers are continuing to be conducted
every four to six days.  One such maneuver was performed today,
Oct. 23, and the next set will be carried out on Oct. 26 and Oct.

30.

     A reduction in the number of ranging passes continued during
this reporting period to improve the spacecraft's signal at a
great distance from Earth.  Today Ulysses is about 546 million
miles (879 million kilometers) from Earth and nearly 12 degrees
south of the ecliptic plane in which Earth orbits.

     The spacecraft is traveling at a heliocentric velocity of
about 20,000 miles per hour (32,000 kilometers per hour).

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    /_ /|  /____/ \  /_ /|     Ron Baalke         | [e-mail]
    | | | |  __ \ /| | | |     Jet Propulsion Lab |
 ___| | | | |__) |/  | | |__   M/S 525-3684 Telos | If God had wanted us to
/___| | | |  ___/    | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | have elections, he would
|_____|/  |_|/       |_____|/                     | have given us candidates.

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